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Comments on: The patsies of Parkdale? Bar owners say they shoulder blame for entire neighbourhood https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/ Serving Toronto's most liveable community with the Annex Gleaner Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:24:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: Clair Culliford https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1618 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:42:38 +0000 http://gleanernews.ca/?p=1508#comment-1618 Dear Editor:

The Gleaner’s article, “The Patsies of Parkdale,” states that some area business owners are dissatisfied. If the Gleaner were to survey all the business owners from Triller to Beaty, the two blocks where Grace Place and Skadarlija are located, they would find that the great majority of them are dissatisfied, disheartened, and discouraged by these two bars. Some are thinking of moving their businesses from the area, because of the frequent problems they and their customers face from Grace Place and Skadarlija.

It should be noted that while many of the members of the West Parkdale Neighbours Group are business owners, most are residents of the area. Many residents have had displeasing experiences while walking past these two establishments. Some are afraid to walk past them at certain times of the day.

Mr Sri stated” “I’m here about eight years, I not have any problems, now after this guy Poor John move in, he don’t like my customer.” Mr Sri neglected to mention that for the first five of those years the establishment was a restaurant, “Skadarlija Gourmet European Cuisine.”

When Mr Sri’s bar, the notorious Bel Cafe across the street at 1521 Queen St W., was closed three years ago for numerous drug, prostitution, and other criminal activities, he took over Skadarlija, kept the name, and moved in the Bel Cafe’s pool table and clientele. It was then that “this guy Poor John” and many other people began to complain.

The Gleaner may wish to interview the business owners surrounding Grace Place, to hear the accounts of fighting, window breaking, urination, and vomiting outside of that establishment. The stories will be the same as those of the owners surrounding Skadarlija, with only the throat slitting at Grace Place added for colour.

If the Gleaner were to do procure the police reports on these two establishments through Freedom of Information requests, and show them to Mr Sri, Mr Zhang, Mr Hanuman, and Mr Perks, these four gentleman would have some explaining to do.

Thank you.

Clair Culliford

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By: J Silva https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1614 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:21:52 +0000 http://gleanernews.ca/?p=1508#comment-1614 I think it’s great that you tried to provide a balanced view on this issue because Parkdale is a complex place where many viewpoints have to be respected. Having said that, this one is about as black and white as they get. These bars provide nothing for the community. They enable people with addiction issues and they provide an income for owners who are unethical enough to exploit that weakness. Everyone else is left to pick up the pieces.

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By: Gleaner article about West Parkdale | Parkdale Neighbours https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:25:58 +0000 http://gleanernews.ca/?p=1508#comment-1609 […] Gleaner has posted an article about the issues in our little corner of […]

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By: Scribblez https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1607 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:08:06 +0000 http://gleanernews.ca/?p=1508#comment-1607 I personally find it extremely offensive that Mr. Sri would say, “all Queen Street people pee outside.” I have worked in Parkdale for many years and never once have I felt the need to urinate on the street, when I have a perfectly good washroom indoors. The patrons of these establishments are a constant nuisance; providing a constant obstacle course of drunken comments and threats every time one is to pass in front. With a string of constant violence and substance abuse spewing from these establishments I would wonder how anyone could even consider wanting them to stay?

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By: M Stevens https://gleanernews.ca/the-patsies-of-parkdale-bar-owners-say-they-shoulder-blame-for-entire-neighbourhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1605 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:45:57 +0000 http://gleanernews.ca/?p=1508#comment-1605 The owners of the two bars clearly don’t have much respect for those who live in the neighbourhood.

Gord Perks’ claim that there isn’t much that the owners of the establishments can do once their patrons leave is trite. The owners could practice the Smart Serve guidelines they’re trained in and not over serve their patrons.

I don’t see people falling down drunk or brawling on Roncessvales or further down Queen Street. This is a problem that’s unique to these two locations.

If these two owners want less headaches, they should invest in their businesses and attract a better customer. Profit will follow.

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